i think from talking points from the white house, but that's -- >> president obama is still certainly skittish from that campaign remark he made in 2008 which was caught -- >> that was offensive because he was -- the guns -- >> the guns. >> he didn't mean it that way, and there's a reason he travels with, what do you call it -- >> teleprompters everywhere. >> that comment was offensive. i'm not saying you want to offend the about people who -- we all know people who own guns and who use guns. we don't want to offend them, but, on the other hand, you just don't want to prefend you're something you're not. >> right, but i think joe biden actually does own a shotgun and does actually have his wife -- if she's worried about something, go out there and sort of -- i mean, who knows what happens at the biden house, actually? i would also note -- >> that's a future show. >> three out of four people have used the adjective hob sfwl ian. we're waiting for your dropping of the phrase. >> keep waiting. >> after the break, the president is caught between a shale rock and a hard place. the white ho